In this episode of Based Camp, Malcolm and Simone Collins break down the Revenge of the Chud — the astonishing wave of woke flops across Hollywood and gaming. From Christopher Nolan’s The Odyssey getting destroyed in reactions, to Disney’s Snow White bombing, Marvel flops, Ubisoft’s collapse, and more, they explore why “go woke, go broke” is finally hitting critical mass.
They dive deep into the cultural shift: the explosion of right-leaning AI creativity (Skybrow Cinematic Universe, Leaflet vibe-coding, based AI music/videos), the mysterious disappearance of woke consumers and leftist counterculture, and why the right is building new artistic languages with no real opposition.
Plus: homeschooling chaos, Reality Fabricator (RFAB) updates, techno-feudalism, and why the future of culture belongs to those actually creating.
Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Malcolm Collins: Hello, Simone. I’m excited to be here with you today. Today, we are going to be talking about the year of the chud. W- I thought last year was the year of the chud in terms- ... of woke flops. But a lot of other channels, they’ll do an episode on every woke flop, every big conservative win.
[00:00:16] I wanted to cluster all of these together because now- ... their frequency and scale has been genuinely astonishing. And I think to a point where people are beginning to, even in the industry, be like, “Oh, we can’t do this anymore. Like, we cannot cast these types of individuals anymore. We cannot lead with X types of characters anymore.
[00:00:44] Like, the market simply does not tolerate it.”
[00:00:47] Speaker: such as Christopher Nolan’s, , Odyssey, which has just been absolutely destroyed in reactions on YouTube with videos attacking it or mocking it, getting more views than it has, , with a huge negative like to dislike ratio. , And, , especially for a movie that like this mainstream, this big. , And, , I think what Hollywood may take away from this is you cannot cast black people in non-black roles going forwards and you cannot cast trans people as cis people going forwards.
[00:01:19] I think not that you can’t cast these people more broadly, but those are things they should have known. I mean, like we learned you can’t cast white people as black people a while ago. Why did it take them so long to learn that with white people? Or maybe they won’t learn. As you know, I said in the Kirsha thing, , we had to literally shut down all of Ubisoft to \ get it through their sick skull, , that we didn’t want that slop.
[00:01:44] , So maybe we’ll have to shut down a lot of Hollywood as well.
[00:01:46] Speaker 10: Love the women 87% like dislike ratio for Christopher Nolan’s The Odyssey. Oh my God, 446,000 dislike a ruskies
[00:01:58] Malcolm Collins: And what’s interesting about this, and, and this is what I’m going to start with, ‘cause I think it’s the, the most interesting part other than just cheering every individual victory, is it sort of feels like we don’t have anyone playing against us, and I want to explore why. We have another episode where we go into this, called, like, The Mystery of the Missing Woke Customer. Oh,
[00:02:23] yeah ...
[00:02:24] because if we look at the number of people, even number of people who, like, I know of in my life who are still very urban monoculture-
[00:02:33] Mm-hmm
[00:02:34] um, there should be a buyer base for woke-ified products. And yet-
[00:02:41] Simone Collins: Right ...
[00:02:42] Malcolm Collins: we are seeing numbers that are, like, 50 people bought it or something. You know, like, in some of the instances it’ll be like a, you know, 5,000 people bought something that cost 300 million to make, right? Like, it, there are numbers that simply do not make sense.
[00:02:59] But I had this realization.
[00:03:01] Simone Collins: Well, no, there was one other detail that you said in that episode that really stuck with me was that when you looked into it, a lot of the developers of these w- woke audience targeted games that no woke people are buying, themselves don’t even eat the dog food, as we say in Silicon Valley.
[00:03:15] Like, they don’t, they wouldn’t even buy the games they’re developing, if fact they’re just- Oh, yeah. Well, I mean,
[00:03:18] Malcolm Collins: a number of
[00:03:18] Simone Collins: woke games- ... consuming 90s media, right?
[00:03:20] Malcolm Collins: Yeah. Like, if you even look at a game l- like Concord or whatever, when that bombed, or, or Mixtape, like, if, even if the development team was playing it, they would have better numbers, right?
[00:03:29] Like, the, the, the numbers are so low, they almost don’t make sense. And w- I had this realization that changed a lot of this for me, which is I was talking with a reporter, a trans reporter who writes on us sometimes. I actually think she’s quite a based individual. I have no negative feelings towards this individual.
[00:03:49] Y- you- ... she’s one of those, you know, based trans people, if you, if you know any of them. They, they actually exist. But she was like, “Anything new going on in AI? [00:04:00] Like, what are you thinking about in AI? What is your community talking about in AI?” And I was like, “W- w- like AI is everything in my community right now.
[00:04:08] Like do you know about the Skybrow Cinematic Universe?” Right? And she I mean, obviously she didn’t, but I started to walk her through it, and then I had this realization and I started researching it, and there isn’t. If you look at the, the right-leaning community online, you’ve got you know, Leaflet will be on a stream, and she’ll be like, “Wouldn’t it be funny if we made a video game about what the tribe of warrior women in Africa who are actually like super involved with slaving and the people trying to stop them were the British, if we made a video game about that tribe?”
[00:04:43] And so she’ll just start like vibe coding it on the screen in the background while she’s streaming.
[00:04:49] Simone Collins: That’s so fun.
[00:04:51] Malcolm Collins: Or the other game she made when she was streaming last time. I mean, I keep seeing her make ones a lot. The other one was on trying to catch Mexicans crossing the border with a lasso.
[00:04:58] Oh my God. Oh, my God. The other one was going to the Anthony trial and selling a pineapple that you had you know- Oh, no ... kept in the, what do you call it? Kool-Aid or whatever, whatever, whatever, whatever the, Something about Kool-Aid and pineapples ... the funny viral drink is.
[00:05:13] Simone Collins: Whatever.
[00:05:13] Malcolm Collins: And then people would try to rob you.
[00:05:15] And just fantastic. I love it. But it’s, it’s- Mm ... you see that. You see, the shared... And this, this is very interesting to me because I realized when I was talking to the reporter about it and they’re like, “Well, that’s interesting.” And I go, “No, no, no, no, no. Like, you don’t get it.” Like, they’re like, “Oh, y- now that this is cheap, there’s people making stuff with it.”
[00:05:36] And I’m like, that’s not really the fullness of what’s going on here. That’s a bit like looking at early 4chan and being like, “Oh, people have started, found, found a place where they can anonymously share stuff. And so th- now they’ve begun to like iteratively share images.” And it’s like, yes, that is true.
[00:05:53] But more important, a unique language and artistic style began to be developed in the way that those lang- images, those macros communicate. And this language and artistic style ended up being a dominant force in American politics you know, about 15 years, 10 years after it originated, right? And having been around during that period What is happening in the artistic language of the right and how we use AI-
[00:06:30] Simone Collins: Hmm
[00:06:31] Malcolm Collins: feels incredibly similar. It feels like this type of ... And I think if you’re on the right, or this broader community, you do not notice just how frequently you are hitting AI art, right? Mm. Like, I this happened to me when at first what I’m thinking is, like, Sky Brown stuff, and then I thought oh, well, you know, the only person who really opposes us is Dog Shocker Hasan, and then I was like, oh yeah, I should send them the, the video where Hasan raps about shocking his dog.
[00:07:05] And then I was like, oh yeah, that’s an AI video. It had actually gone out of my brain that the dog, the dog shocking video was made with AI because it wasn’t done in the stylistic language of the things that I am used to being made in AI.
[00:07:23] Simone Collins: Oh, that’s so funny.
[00:07:24] Malcolm Collins: But it is, you know, on the the secondary stylistic language.
[00:07:28] In the same way with, like, as memes were first developed, you had your Wojaks, you had your Pepes, you had your, ... The dog shocking video, in terms of its artistic meme category, falls into the same category I’d put the Spencer Pratt for, for mayor ad. Which again, is something made with AI.
[00:07:46] And what’s important to note is if you’re on the right, you’re like, “Well, of course we’re using AI to make things.”
[00:07:52] The left isn’t. I actually went into this with y- w- well, with AI to try to find [00:08:00] is there any equivalent online, like, creation, collaborative creation with AI community on the left? And the best it could find was somebody who was politically neutral and made, like, s- a, a sci-fi universe with AI which was a cool product.
[00:08:17] I, I thought it was actually- That does
[00:08:18] Simone Collins: sound really cool. Yeah ...
[00:08:19] Malcolm Collins: neat. Yeah. I, I, I tried to watch it and it was f- unfortunately for me, boring. I didn’t really like it. But-
[00:08:27] Simone Collins: We’ve obliterated- Not like- ... our attention spans. It’s fair, you
[00:08:30] Malcolm Collins: know? Well, I like, I like my stuff entertaining, right? You know? But you certainly and I
[00:08:36] Simone Collins: yeah, buddy, we’re not done. Did you finish your math lessons for the day? No.
[00:08:39] Malcolm Collins: Oh, I,
[00:08:40] Simone Collins: I couldn’t. Oh.
[00:08:41] Malcolm Collins: I think
[00:08:42] Simone Collins: we
[00:08:44] Malcolm Collins: gotta seize the luck. He
[00:08:44] Simone Collins: said five lessons today. But we got- Tell him ... PC Principal over here.
[00:08:47] Malcolm Collins: Tell
[00:08:48] Simone Collins: him.
[00:08:48] Malcolm Collins: Tell him
[00:08:48] Simone Collins: you did five- Daddy says five
[00:08:49] Malcolm Collins: lessons ... he gave you, he made a promise.
[00:08:50] Now you gotta take him up to
[00:08:50] Simone Collins: it Have you done five? You said you promised.
[00:08:52] Malcolm Collins: No. I, I t- I tried. I tried- Well, you better, you better keep your promise ... but it got sleepy and I went with Eric and I only did zero so far. Uly, you,
[00:09:01] Simone Collins: you got about an hour and a half left.
[00:09:03] Malcolm Collins: If it, if it makes you feel any better, I was watching a video today about how children typically do better if you wait to start teaching them- Oh ... language and math- Mm
[00:09:12] um, until around the age of seven. So we’re- Mm ... we’re even before where we should be doing it if we were aligning with the studies.
[00:09:19] Simone Collins: Okay.
[00:09:20] Malcolm Collins: Which you should probably look into, by the way. You, you seem to have just, like, immediately defaulted to what the school system says is best without considering-
[00:09:27] Simone Collins: well, I have to maintain statutory requirements.
[00:09:30] So I don’t actually consider, like, the lessons that he has to do to meet statutory requirements for us to, like, be able to basically show the proof we have to show to keep him homeschooled. I don’t consider that with education. Yeah. Figured that that would be... Love you, buddy But yeah, it’s, it’s the stuff that he learns with us.
[00:09:54] I, I’m not, I’m... When I think he needs to learn certain concepts, I’m not gonna have him do lessons to learn those concepts. I’m going to teach him those concepts. We have different versions. It’s, it’s like a, a two-sided homeschooling system. One is keep him out of public school, which means meeting the statutory requirements.
[00:10:13] Side two is actually teach him things that he needs to succeed.
[00:10:16] Malcolm Collins: They allow- And I’m, we’re doing both ... for, like, Waldorf schools in Pennsylvania, and they operate on this principle. There, there are ways around this.
[00:10:23] Simone Collins: Mordorf. Where you
[00:10:25] Malcolm Collins: go to- Waldorf or whatever ... Mordor. Anyway so the point I’m making here is that there isn’t an opposing visual form being created, artistic form or culture being created on the left, which feels very different from the early 4chan days.
[00:10:44] Hmm. Because in the early 4chan days, while 4chan was developing the culture that is now- ... controlling the White House Twitter feed, right?
[00:10:52] Simone Collins: And whoever is running that, oh my goodness gracious ...
[00:10:55] Malcolm Collins: we need to do a meme review for, for White House account.
[00:10:59] Simone Collins: The things they’ve posted, this is next level.
[00:11:01] Malcolm Collins: Unhinged AI funness.
[00:11:03] Unhinged. Like, I love it too.
[00:11:05] Simone Collins: So, yeah, yeah. I just, I, it’s so, it’s so well- They
[00:11:07] Malcolm Collins: had a, actually, they had a great AI... They’ve done a number of really good AI projects. Like, the one recently was of Dr. Trump curing a bunch of lefty celebrities- Ooh ... of Trump Derangement Syndrome and them talking- Oh, wow
[00:11:18] Speaker 6: Diagnosed with TDS? The symptoms can be relentless. Fortunately, I’m Dr. Trump, and I have a treatment plan. Let’s hear what some of my patients have to say. I have been suffering for over a decade, and after listening to Dr. Trump, I can see some results. Man, I’ve been suffering for years. I really didn’t believe that was help out there.
[00:11:44] Speaker 8: That was when I came across this video on TV. I really thought I was a lost cause. This was gonna affect me for the rest of my life. But after using the treatment plan, I can see a difference
[00:11:57] Malcolm Collins: about how he changed their life. But, like, [00:12:00] what is fascinating about all of this is it used to be we were competing against Tumblr culture. And the- Ooh ... language and visual forms and cultural norms that they developed came to dominate the modern left. Hmm. But right now, we aren’t actually fighting with anyone.
[00:12:25] And what it... This really hit me as I was like, “Who do we on the right, like, pretend our core opponent is in the songs, in the videos, in the, in the stuff?” It’s, like, Hasan Piker, which I have never in my entire life met a real fan of Hasan Piker. I, and we’ve talked about this before, struggle to even model somebody who might be a fan of Hasan Piker.
[00:12:52] I was surprised to find out that his fan base is actually majority male as well, which- It is, wow ... is even more confusing. Who-
[00:12:59] Simone Collins: That is, because the only people that we have heard of are some women who listen to this podcast who have either friends or coworkers who are female who listen to Hasan Piker.
[00:13:09] That’s it
[00:13:11] Malcolm Collins: Yeah. So, and, and Hasan Piker has like a small sort of orbit of community, if, if you know what I mean? But they’re, they’re minuscule compared to... Like, if you look at the, the, the wider community that we’re a part of, you know, your, your Nux and your Asmogold and your Tectone and your Goth Guy and your Leaflet and your Kirsha and your Smug Alana and your just Powder can’t, can’t leave her out.
[00:13:38] A- outside of even the, the AI creators, it’s a fairly... There, there isn’t a Hasan equivalent to this.
[00:13:46] Simone Collins: Hmm.
[00:13:47] Malcolm Collins: Right? There, there, there are orbiters, but it’s not like a constellation of real beliefs or anything like that. And this is when I realized, like are we fighting, like, the air? Like, do we just dunk on Hasan to dunk on Hasan?
[00:14:02] Speaker 2: To give you an idea of what I mean here, the two figures our community makes fun of the most other than Hasan are his fat Muslim orbiter and mod who has like sixty regular watchers that I’m aware of, , I don’t remember her name, and who’s currently in a lawsuit with Ian Klein. And then also in a lawsuit with Ian Klein, we often make fun of iDubbbz.
[00:14:24] But iDubbbz we make fun of because at one point in the past he was famous, but he’s certainly not famous now. He doesn’t have an audience now. That we have to dig to that extent, where are our enemies? I don’t know. The large leftist content producers who I respect enough to not make fun of, like ContraPoints, simply don’t produce videos anymore, , or not frequently.
[00:14:49] , Philosophy Tube, we’ve done a video on one of their takes, but like even on the left they’re seen as sort of a creep who tried to copy ContraPoints after dating her like her entire life, , which is really creepy. What, by that I mean is apparently , he dated her and then he went trans and then he like took her style and career, , which is a weird thing to do, and she has acknowledged this in a deleted tweet.
[00:15:14] , But anyway, yeah, she’s like, “You think your stalkers are bad? At least nobody tried to steal your life.”
[00:15:19] Speaker 3: Actually, now that I think about it, that could explain part of why the leftist influencer class disappeared. They have like psychological breakdowns and become incredibly unproductive. , They’re just not as hardworking as well. , Like Contrapoints just dying off as a channel due to not working as hard or not having as loud of a cultural voice.
[00:15:38] Or, another person who this happened to was, , Lindsay Ellis. Uh, you know, her, her own side turned on her at one point, and she ended up having a bunch of mental issues as a result of that. , And then there was--
[00:15:49] Aluma Hottie, who ended up being a scam artist and everybody descended on her like sharks
[00:15:55] Malcolm Collins: Like, he doesn’t seem to have credibility with any mainstream [00:16:00] demographic or movement or anything like that. Hmm. And it’s really fascinating where I project what’s going to happen, or when I project what’s going to happen, to culture moving forwards, given that there isn’t a meaningful leftist counterculture building something right now
[00:16:27] Hmm.
[00:16:28] And I am confused by that. I know that leftists are like reactively anti-AI, but the right had some people who were anti-AI in the early days. I guess just everyone ignored them. I think it may, it might be at the right that we got better at ignoring the people who were shrieking at us.
[00:16:50] Simone Collins: I, I think a huge portion of it is that they all went to Blue Sky and that-
[00:16:55] Malcolm Collins: Well, this is the secondary thing.
[00:16:57] Yeah ... I was talking, and I’ve noticed this as well, to the journalist about... I was like, “Who are the futurists? Who are the pro-AI people on the left?” And we both came to sort of realize they exist on the left, but they don’t make stuff. So they’re typically like in programming AI or like, she mentioned Cory Doctorow is one of these people.
[00:17:21] And I’m like, Cory Doctorow is kind of pro-AI kind of trepidatious on AI when I actually read his stuff. But by the way, you can look at, look at the thing starting up. Hey.
[00:17:35] So getting, getting that all set up. For our kids hopefully, I really wanna get this working by tomorrow. That, that would be so cool that I can start, you know, having people buy the hardware products
[00:17:46] Simone Collins: And trying it out, well-
[00:17:47] Malcolm Collins: And trying them out,
[00:17:48] Simone Collins: yeah Let’s play test it on the kids first, ‘cause you might wanna make a lot of design changes based on what they respond to
[00:17:56] Malcolm Collins: But there are people on the left who are okay with AI or even futurist, they just don’t make stuff
[00:18:04] Simone Collins: Hmm
[00:18:05] Malcolm Collins: And I f- I wanted to think through this.
[00:18:07] One is, and I will say this very strongly, this was not entirely organic on the right. This was very seeded in a way where what I would say is having it called the Skybrow Cinematic Universe, I think makes perfect sense.
[00:18:26] Speaker 4: What I mean by that is if the human being who is behind Sky Brows didn’t exist, I don’t know that we would’ve gotten off on all of this. Simone and I used to make AI songs at the end of our videos, but we never put in that much effort because I simply didn’t know that a product that good was possible.
[00:18:40] It hadn’t been modeled to us that this can be done, and I think all of us seeing that in such a familiar way where it felt like such a down to earth, “Oh, I watch the same types of people you watch,” showed us all what we could attempt, and we are the type of community that when we see something, we go, “Hey, I should try that.”
[00:18:59] Malcolm Collins: And also talking a bit about the language that’s being developed in this before we go over all these woke flops ‘cause I, I just wanna think about this.
[00:19:06] It, like, feels like we’re fighting a cultural battle and no one’s on the other side of the cultural battle. It’s almost Truman Show-esque. These-
[00:19:15] Simone Collins: What it feels like to me is loosely tied and overlapping affiliative groups that enjoy similar things and enjoy membership in their overlapping cultures.
[00:19:30] But, but this is- And they don’t really care about what outsiders think. I mean, it’s, we’ve reached a point at which it doesn’t really matter that much No, they
[00:19:35] Malcolm Collins: do. They do. Actually, I think, I actually think that that’s what is happening-
[00:19:39] Simone Collins: Really? ...
[00:19:39] Malcolm Collins: and, and causing a lot of this phenomenon, is most people are not woke.
[00:19:46] Even most urban monoculture people are not woke. They might even think of themselves as a little subversive. But at the end of the day, most people want status and to be seen as erudite, elite, [00:20:00] sophisticated.
[00:20:00] Speaker 12: A recent study essentially confirmed this. It was done at Northwestern University, Michigan, on performative progressivism in 2025 is when it came out. It showed that 88% of students pretend to hold more progressive views than they really do. , And,
[00:20:14] 77% said that they disagreed with the idea that gender identity should override biological sex in domains in sports and health and public data. But that 77% also said they would never voice that in public. 80% say they misrepresent their views in coursework, you know, knowing that they need to lie about their views to get good grades.
[00:20:31] , This is the degree to which we are teaching people you have to hide any conservative belief you have if you want to be seen as high status or get ahead in society
[00:20:41] Malcolm Collins: We were interacting with a, an old classmate of mine recently who really fit into this category, right?
[00:20:47] In, in terms of, like, why she found our views so mortifying and the way we’re expressing them so mortifying is because it was trashy, it was low class, it was because the wokes have successfully branded certain views and ways of talking and ways of acting as, as being that. And when other people have done podcasts on us they bragged about how their title cards didn’t use AI.
[00:21:13] And I don’t think that they were anti-AI people But they thought that that was something worthy of being proud of when all their title cards were was cutting out people’s faces- Yeah ... that they had found from Google Images and putting them on the title card.
[00:21:27] Simone Collins: For real, yeah. Not, not a flex.
[00:21:32] Malcolm Collins: Not a flex. The, our AI title cards are actually pretty hard to create.
[00:21:35] Like, they, talent goes in to being this based, people. Ugh.
[00:21:40] Do you know that yesterday we had the Pope being mesmerized by a trans gun? Oh my gosh. That was an awesome title card. Even the, the clickbaitiness of the title cards requires some work. You know?
[00:21:54] Simone Collins: It does, yeah. The, the, there is genuinely actually for, for every title card there are two to five alternate options that we discuss.
[00:22:02] We, we put way too much thought into these.
[00:22:07] Malcolm Collins: No, title cards are the most important part of an episode. I, I know-
[00:22:09] Simone Collins: I know, I know ... they take the most- They’re, they’re the face of an episode. They’re the cover of the book. They matter completely and, and entirely. And yes, we do put a lot of effort into them and, you know.
[00:22:19] Malcolm Collins: But I think what we’re missing is those types of people don’t go out and buy a woke show. They don’t even consider themselves woke. They’re slightly annoyed- Yeah ... by woke people.
[00:22:30] Simone Collins: Well, I think this might be- But- It’s similar to a dynamic we’re finding with Reality Fabricator, and I’d love to see this somehow be defied eventually.
[00:22:39] But right now, like- 95% of our customers are male.
[00:22:45] Malcolm Collins: And- But about taking advantage that sites users are female.
[00:22:47] Simone Collins: Yeah. And I feel like that there might be a similar dynamic with far progressives, where in the end, like the money just isn’t there. Th- they’re not buying the things, and that makes them consumers with not a lot of influence in the end when they’re working at least with companies that actually look for a return on investment.
[00:23:08] And I will say that there has been a period where I guess there’s been this weird subsidy of woke products. It lasted a lot longer than all the go woke, go broke canaries in the coal mine would have thought. But I think maybe we’re reaching the end of that. Well, I mean, look,
[00:23:22] Malcolm Collins: they all, they all start going broke as soon as USAID gets shut down.
[00:23:26] Simone Collins: Weirdly.
[00:23:26] Malcolm Collins: Surprising, huh?
[00:23:28] Simone Collins: Yeah. Yeah. No, there, there is this very strange dynamic of large groups and segments in societies not paying for certain types of products, just not being meaningful consumers, and that, that will have an effect on culture.
[00:23:41] Malcolm Collins: So, the, and I’ll go into all the flops in just a second.
[00:23:45] You guys have all seen all the numbers before probably, so not that exciting, but the, the sheer scale of it. I mean, we culturally took down Ubisoft, which was one of the largest [00:24:00] brands in gaming, simply by removing their customer base, right? This has been astonishing that you could take down... I used to buy every Assassin’s Creed release, by the way.
[00:24:15] I quite like
[00:24:16] Simone Collins: them. Yeah. I remember you looking forward to them with great anticipation. I feel like the last one you enjoyed was the pirate one.
[00:24:22] Malcolm Collins: That, that’s often thought of as the best one, but it’s not the last one I enjoyed.
[00:24:25] Simone Collins: Maybe the Paris one was okay.
[00:24:27] Malcolm Collins: I was okay- Did you like that one? ... up to the, the Viking one.
[00:24:30] I thought the Viking one was fine.
[00:24:31] Simone Collins: Oh, I don’t remember you saying anything about the Viking one ever.
[00:24:35] Malcolm Collins: Well, it wasn’t as good as the other. I mean, I didn’t like it as much as like the... I, I thought the Paris one was also fine. The one that I’ve replayed is not the pirate one, but the American Revolution one.
[00:24:44] Simone Collins: Mm.
[00:24:44] Malcolm Collins: That one’s I, I think gets, gets undersold in terms of, You could, you get to play in areas that are like where we live today- Oh, that’s fun ... but in the colonial period.
[00:24:53] Simone Collins: Yeah.
[00:24:53] Malcolm Collins: You
[00:24:53] Simone Collins: know. But the pirate one had the sea shanties.
[00:24:56] Malcolm Collins: The pirate one had the sea shanties. Yes, it did. So how quickly people turn against this stuff that were f- previously, like, totally okay with it.
[00:25:03] Like me being okay with drippies of wokeness, and then just reaching this point where it’s like I’m absolutely radicalized. I’m not touching anything that you people have touched. And th- so I think that that’s the, the key part of the mystery. Actual wokes are incredibly rare. Most of it is your average aspiring to be upper class, respected, urban professional.
[00:25:28] Yeah.
[00:25:28] That’s who actually makes up the muscle of the wokes, but they don’t like the wokes, and they don’t identify as woke.
[00:25:36] Hmm.
[00:25:36] They identify as the cultural elite. And keep in mind, the, the people who identify as a cultural elite are always going to be much more than the number of people who actually are culturally elite, you know?
[00:25:47] These are the people who have their Substack that they pay for people to read, you know, like, the, the sad, sad situations like that. But to continue Let’s go over some explicit drops other than Ubisoft, because that was absolutely crazy that that happened. I mean remember the, the... Oh, God, the trans one.
[00:26:07] Veilguard came out. Oh. And the numbers were astonishingly low, like in the low thousands in terms of purchases. But recently even things like Disney, so if you look at Snow White, Snow White had a budget of 240 million and 270 million, with heavy marketing on top of that. Mm. With a worldwide gross of only around 200 million.
[00:26:28] That means that they lost around $100 million.
[00:26:31] Simone Collins: That is impossible sounding. That’s, that’s vaporizing money. Oh, my gosh.
[00:26:38] Malcolm Collins: That is, that is a sto- Mm. Mm. I mean, if Rachel Zegler ever gets a job again, I am going to... like whoever gives it to her just is insane. Because she single-handedly s- broke that. Like, it didn’t need to be that bad.
[00:26:53] Simone Collins: Come on, they made the fairest of them all about who was the most fair. Who was the
[00:26:58] Malcolm Collins: communist-est, yeah.
[00:27:00] Simone Collins: I... No. I think th- this... There were many. There were many people who played a role, okay? That sounded so bad.
[00:27:09] Malcolm Collins: The
[00:27:10] Simone Collins: world. Oh, and remember when they originally tried to cast non-dwarves for the seven dwarves?
[00:27:16] They were just a multicolored group of mi- misfits. That’s-
[00:27:20] Malcolm Collins: It looked so dumb and bad,
[00:27:22] Simone Collins: and I don’t know- I would have preferred to see that, honestly. The CGI dwarfs looked super creepy, so I would have preferred the, the misfits Which was
[00:27:29] Malcolm Collins: so much worse than real dwarves. Why did they not just... Right,
[00:27:33] Simone Collins: yeah, and again, totally screwing over the dwarf acting community, which, you know, their, their roles are few and far between.
[00:27:38] Give them a, something to work with, people. They must have been so excited. They’re like, “Finally, they’re making a new Snow White. This is our moment. We’ve been waiting for decades for another job.” And then they cast... And then they went CGI. Anyway, yeah, miss- missed the boat.
[00:27:55] Malcolm Collins: The-
[00:27:55] Simone Collins: Okay. How many left until done?
[00:27:57] Okay, [00:28:00]
[00:28:00] Malcolm Collins: one.
[00:28:02] Simone Collins: Oh, buddy, I’m so sorry, but you are gonna have to do some more, because you have not done one if you have 40%. Or 20%. Okay?
[00:28:21] Malcolm Collins: Tell him he has to go do it right now- Mm-hmm ... or daddy’s gonna be very mad. Why? Because- And Krampus might come
[00:28:27] Simone Collins: Oh, daddy says Krampus might come. He, yeah, he doesn’t, yeah. Because he,
[00:28:31] Malcolm Collins: he made a promise.
[00:28:32] Oh.
[00:28:32] Simone Collins: He said, “You made a promise.” And to do a course actually means, to do a lesson actually means to do it. We know you’re good at these, okay?
[00:28:39] Malcolm Collins: I didn’t know. I’m sorry. It’s
[00:28:41] Simone Collins: okay. Just
[00:28:42] Malcolm Collins: go ahead. I thought 4% or 20% means no thing.
[00:28:45] Simone Collins: Yeah, it means failed But it’s okay, buddy. You can do it. We believe in you.
[00:28:50] Malcolm Collins: How many do I have
[00:28:51] Simone Collins: to do?
[00:28:52] Well, you have to do five that you actually completed and passed Okay.
[00:28:58] Malcolm Collins: Yeah, but what about these two ones down here?
[00:29:01] Simone Collins: Those two count. Okay?
[00:29:04] Malcolm Collins: Yeah, like, yeah, like this one. Yeah. Is that 60%?
[00:29:06] Simone Collins: Uh-huh, that one is, yeah, 60% right
[00:29:08] Malcolm Collins: there. And we don’t, and we don’t even know this.
[00:29:10] Simone Collins: Yeah, and when it says N/A, it doesn’t matter.
[00:29:12] You just completed it, and that’s all that matters.
[00:29:14] Malcolm Collins: Oh, do I have to, do I have to do more?
[00:29:14] Simone Collins: So three more, okay? At least. Three. Three more.
[00:29:20] Malcolm Collins: Three.
[00:29:20] Simone Collins: Yeah. Thank you, my friend. I wanna- I appreciate you focusing in on this, ‘cause you did make a promise
[00:29:29] I wanna do this fast. Well, but if you do it fast, you’ll have to keep doing more He has to learn he can’t just try to speed run these by just answering all the questions wrong.
[00:29:37] Malcolm Collins: Okay, M- Marvels. Marvels. You had total cost was around 300 million worldwide. Mm. It only made around 200 million. Again lowest grossing MCU film. And this was around 100 million loss. Supergirl, the one that everyone’s talking about right now it looks like it’s under 99 million right now, and it cost around 275 million. So
[00:29:57] Simone Collins: it’s- How many of these cost this much when so much is just filmed on, like, a sound stage in front of a green screen?
[00:30:06] Malcolm Collins: I mean it’s just-
[00:30:06] Simone Collins: Like, films should cost less to film now than they ever have before.
[00:30:10] Malcolm Collins: Yeah, but unions and they don’t like... I mean, they’re, they’re using AI too is the thing. Yeah. Like, how are they failing even when using AI?
[00:30:17] Simone Collins: Oh, I thought the unions banned AI.
[00:30:20] Malcolm Collins: No, no, no. They use AI for special effects now.
[00:30:23] Simone Collins: Oh, okay, okay. Oh, but just not for actors.
[00:30:26] Malcolm Collins: Yeah. Then you have The, a- and the other thing that we’ve noticed is that on the other side, like when our side releases something or they try to cancel something, it almost always does really well. Obviously the biggest example of this was Hogwarts Legacy, which just- Oh
[00:30:45] absolutely crushed records. It did. So the same thing happened with Black Myth: Wukong, Stellar Blade, Warhammer Forty- 40K Space Marines 2, Mm ... and things like Helldivers
[00:30:56] Simone Collins: 2. Oh yeah, Helldivers. I just kept hearing about that everywhere when it came out.
[00:31:00] Malcolm Collins: And then Sound- In a good way ... of Freedom and the King of Kings, and David and recently on X Citizen Vigilante- Yeah
[00:31:08] a film about going around and murdering immigrants who are raping people which is a fun idea for a movie. I like it. Elon made it free on X or something.
[00:31:19] Simone Collins: For 48 hours, yeah. After Germany gave it a non-rated status, which was sort of their functional way to try to ban it.
[00:31:29] Malcolm Collins: That’s awful, but I love that that’s how he pushed back.
[00:31:32] Like, “Oh, you, you’re gonna give this unrated?” Yeah. “I’ll make sure everybody sees this movie.”
[00:31:37] Simone Collins: Yeah.
[00:31:38] Malcolm Collins: And starring by Armie Hammer, who-
[00:31:40] Simone Collins: Armie Hammer ...
[00:31:42] Malcolm Collins: I’m glad he’s making a comeback. I always felt his cancellation was... I, I think he was a jerk to his wife, but I, I felt the extent of the cancellation was heavily unjustified.
[00:31:51] Yeah. And it, it, so, you know- Yeah ... our side doesn’t fucking care.
[00:31:57] Simone Collins: We really don’t, man [00:32:00]
[00:32:01] Malcolm Collins: We really don’t.
[00:32:02] Simone Collins: It’s honestly just appropriate casting in the end, so like, you know. Right. I think that he read the, he read the reputation. It’s exactly what he should do.
[00:32:09] Malcolm Collins: The, the, the ha- have it be something that he’s like super into, going around murdering these people.
[00:32:14] Make, make it more believable. Yeah ... make it, make it more morally dubious. I think people love that, the Dexter thing, you know. Mm, yeah ... it’s just like I just can’t stop killing people, so I guess I’m gonna make it bad guys. But then have them also be migrant rape- Ooh ... migrant rapes. But yeah where I’m com- a- and the other thing about the leftists, and I, I did, I have noticed on other videos, ‘cause I actually decided to at one point study their, their behavior, like what do they say they consume?
[00:32:42] And one thing that we know is that the leftists-
[00:32:49] Who infiltrated video games, like obviously famously Anita Sarkeesian being caught on film saying, “Well, I don’t really play video games much at all,” Oh, man ... do not consume that type of media. And so the question is if they’re not consuming what they’re creating, like the category of media that they’ve infiltrated, what did leftists actually consume?
[00:33:09] And what I found was it’s mostly just the same thing over and over and over again from their childhood. So I mean, they’re still like rewatching Steven Universe or something. They are still rewatching... And part of it is because they’ve become so hyper-sensitized to anything they might see
[00:33:32] Help for what?
[00:33:34] Simone Collins: Octavian, please. Finish the lessons, okay?
[00:33:37] Malcolm Collins: Octavian, Krampus will come.
[00:33:40] Oh, yeah, yeah. That, so they, they, they re-watch a lot of the content from their childhood because they become so hyper-sensitized to things that they might find offensive that consuming new forms of media and content- Oh ... is really challenging for them, even when it’s aggressively woke.
[00:33:58] Simone Collins: See, I,
[00:33:59] Malcolm Collins: I
[00:33:59] Simone Collins: just thought it was for the same reason why we consume so much content from the 90, ‘90s, is that it’s just better then.
[00:34:04] It’s just so much better.
[00:34:05] Malcolm Collins: Yeah, it often is a lot better.
[00:34:08] Simone Collins: Yeah ...
[00:34:09] Malcolm Collins: to the extent that, like, we were watching, what’s the movie that we were watching? I was like, “This feels like a movie from the ‘90s.”
[00:34:14] Simone Collins: Hail Mary. Hail Mary, yeah. Yeah, felt like it was from that. It, it... Or, like, and I just hadn’t heard a good original score in so long that it actually stood out to me.
[00:34:22] That shouldn’t be a thing. Why, why, you know? That, like, every other score, film score recently has just felt so generic. Like they just are recycling old music. And you can
[00:34:32] Malcolm Collins: watch it on Amazon Prime, by the way, if you want. It’s on for, for Prime members. It’s, it’s, it’s, it’s long and quite good. I, I’d suggest it for the family.
[00:34:40] Simone Collins: Yeah. It made me cry, but I guess I’m in a cry kind of place right now, so.
[00:34:45] Malcolm Collins: I
[00:34:45] Simone Collins: don’t like when movies make me cry, but in a, it’s okay.
[00:34:48] Malcolm Collins: But that, that movie could come out and not be aggressively woke. I mean, when somebody said one of the things that got them about the movie, and I actually agree with this, but I don’t think it’s woke.
[00:34:59] I think it’s unfortunately the way it would really be- Mm-hmm ... is they have this council where it’s supposed to be, like, all the top scientists from around the world. Yeah. And it’s, like, clearly got somebody from, like, you know, your African representatives, your, you know, your representatives from, like, Eastern Europe, your representatives from, like, S- South America, your rep-
[00:35:17] Simone Collins: That’s what one of these would look like today.
[00:35:19] Malcolm Collins: Right. And he’s like, “But really, if w- it, like, if the world was actually under threat, we’d want, like, a bunch of people from America and Israel. Like, let’s be honest here.” Right. Like, is that basically how we’re running the world now? Just, like, the smart people from America and Israel are in the room deciding what happens next.
[00:35:37] Simone Collins: I- With the caveat that the smart people from America are actually the smartest people from all around the world. And then the people in Israel are just- True.
[00:35:43] Malcolm Collins: I mean, yeah, you get some Indians in there. You get some, you know- Yeah ... we, we, we, this is true. It was a
[00:35:47] Simone Collins: lot of the- Like, when you, when you listen to the All-In podcast w- which is some of the most, you know, the world’s most successful investors and VCs, like, the proportion of them that are immigrants to America, huge.
[00:35:56] Elon Musk, immigrant to America. So many of these people were not born in America, [00:36:00] and that’s notable.
[00:36:02] Malcolm Collins: Where, where, where were, where were they, where were they talking?
[00:36:05] Well, I think within the next generation that’s where we’re gonna be. I think especially as world economies start collapsing and AI becomes bigger, more and more of just ignoring the rest of the world is gonna become the norm. Just being like, “We do not need you on this project. We will give you some of our AI money to keep you alive if you’re nice.”
[00:36:20] Simone Collins: Oh, gosh.
[00:36:21] Malcolm Collins: And now we can add the caveat because we’re Republicans, if you’re nice. The Democrats would give bo- money to people who don’t even like us. In, in fact, we should send no money to countries that have negative favorability of the United States. I don’t care how much suffering there is in that country.
[00:36:35] Yeah,
[00:36:35] Simone Collins: that, that feels right. That feels very fair.
[00:36:38] Malcolm Collins: Yeah. You have to, you have to vote on the surveys we love America if you want aid. Certain, certain aid thresholds, like n- 90% or something, and then you get, then you get aid. But anyway, the wider point here being is I think that we are in a very important cultural moment where new forms of art and media are being defined, new artistic languages are being defined.
[00:37:02] Oh, and the point I was going to make is I think part of the thing that got the right into all of this, that made the right productive with these types of artistic assets, is a number of influential people on the right just sat down and intentionally decided to inspire people. When the first Sky Browse video went viral, that went viral, the Elon video- Ah
[00:37:29] When, when I saw that video, I, I immediately shared it with Simone. It didn’t feel like something I was aware was possible with AI technology at the time. I saw that, and I was like, “This is catchy, entertaining, culturally on point for somebody like me. I feel like heard. I, I’m, I’m compelled by this.
[00:37:54] I feel like this person culturally gets me,” right? Mm. And then the next video comes out, and this is when he started adding in even more streamers and stuff like that, and it was streamers who I know we overlap heavily with or I’ve done collabs with or whatever. And then I feel even more like, and a lot of people see, like, oh, you- you’re, like, looking at my inbox.
[00:38:17] You’re looking at my YouTube video feed. You get this perception of a shared cultural identity from the video. And then from that, because then streamers decided to react to this, then other people started producing videos mimicking aspects of the stylistic element, but building on them.
[00:38:39] Simone Collins: Yeah.
[00:38:39] Malcolm Collins: And that is what led to the explosion of the online AI music video phenomenon.
[00:38:47] Now we’re in a secondary category of building, which where I talked about Leaflet Sitting down and saying, like, “I am going to make this game to show you how good AI is at vibe coding, how quickly it can create something,” is intentionally about activating our base to get off their butts and start creating stuff because now we can consume each other’s content.
[00:39:13] Every you know, Holy Ball or Skybrow, there’s a new guy that I’ve been liking who did a good video on K-Nucks or Nucksuckin or something, a fantastic song.
[00:39:21] Speaker 5: A secret door if you think you’ve seen it all Always crab on, on, on. No permission
[00:39:32] Malcolm Collins: Every song of theirs that we consume that our kids hear is an urban monoculture is a, a big media song they’re not hearing. And as we begin to produce more full-length anime, which I expect we’ll start seeing in our community within probably the next year every one of those I consume is something of the urban monocultures I’m not consuming, right?
[00:39:54] The more content creators we get in our space of that variety, the more we can... And this is [00:40:00] something you see with RFAB, which is also a new way of building and building a company. People have shown the meme when they’re talking about rfab.ai, which is our site, of, oh, it’s like one of those guns which has, like, a knife taped on it and, like, a, a, the spatula and, like, a...
[00:40:17] because of all the different things, whether it’s you know, the AI for recipe generation or the AI for narrative DMing or the, the site that searches all not safe for work image bureaus at the same time or all not safe for work you- video sites or all torrent sites at the same time and strips all the a- annoyingness and ads out of the torrent sites or all of the...
[00:40:36] That one, by the way, needs the Bridge app to be running in your browser for it to work. By the way, when was the last time you tested the Bridge app?
[00:40:42] Simone Collins: I need to test it again.
[00:40:44] Malcolm Collins: Okay, you need to test it before- There’s an echo Okay I hear a slight echo from you, but you need to test it before you go downstairs ‘cause that means it’s been days.
[00:40:51] Ooh. And I had done the upload from my end. I just need to see that it opens.
[00:40:58] Simone Collins: So you want me to download it and reinstall ...
[00:41:00] Malcolm Collins: yeah, just download it and open it. See if you can open it. Sure. That’s all, that’s all I need to see. If it opens, it works. It’s, it’s more of an authentification issue to make sure that that was correctly applied.
[00:41:09] Simone Collins: Okay.
[00:41:13] Malcolm Collins: But the point being is, is it’s all of these different products, and there’s, like, three or four products in the site that are in the works now that you guys haven’t seen yet. You’ve got the hardware feature, which I’ve mentioned. We’ve got a tutoring feature for kids. We’ve got a a feature w- that it, you know, does email consolidation.
[00:41:32] I’ve got a video streaming feature. I’ve got a video editing feature that auto-edits videos for production. And what, what combines everything on the site, like the Vtuber creation, it’s that it’s stuff that at some point was interested in somebody in our community. They’re either fans... Like, a fan asked me, he goes, “Malcolm, can you make a feature that can turn text into audio and determine who’s speaking and use different speakers?”
[00:41:55] And I’m like, “Fine,” and that’s live on the site right now. S-
[00:41:59] Simone Collins: Yes. That’s good. That’s 80%. Good job, buddy.
[00:42:05] Malcolm Collins: Keep going. Tell him to keep going so Krampus doesn’t get him. Daddy
[00:42:07] Simone Collins: says keep going, okay? You’re doing great. I’m really proud of you.
[00:42:13] Malcolm Collins: Okay.
[00:42:13] Simone Collins: Thank you, my friend. Thank you for focusing. ,
[00:42:17] Malcolm Collins: Talking about the new type of website. Yeah. But I think that this is where companies are going in the age when you can just summon any AI you want, right? To make any product you want, is we’re sort of developing in our community a degree of cultural siloing- Hmm
[00:42:32] in terms of the products that we’re making, right? Like, I don’t work on actually making the AI models, but if you’re on our site, you can use the Rhodes model, which has been trained to be super based, right? What by, by a fan. So I’m gonna be able to put that in as an API. Leaflet doesn’t spend a lot of her time making utility software like VTuber rigs and stuff like this but she spends a ton of time on her music videos.
[00:42:59] You know, if you look at the Skybrows. Skybrows, I, and I can’t make videos like the ones he makes. I, I just don’t take the time- No, he’s so good ... to develop those skills yet. And-
[00:43:09] Simone Collins: Well, and he also has a very distinct style. It is definitely a human plus AI thing, ‘cause you, you can tell even just from listening to it if it’s a Skybrows video from various flourishes that he maintains throughout his all, all of his songs.
[00:43:20] I love it.
[00:43:22] Malcolm Collins: Yeah. So the point being is that the way that each of us have taken to our role and building out our role is quite culturally unique for each of us, and the company that is just building products that are useful in your life and will hopefully be useful in the lives of people like you, I think is like the next thing.
[00:43:45] And if you notice on RFAB, if we’re not ch- being charged for something, we always offer it for free. You know, whether it’s the tip feature or the image app that I made, that I am actually... I use it regularly. It’s a really useful app [00:44:00] for me. And it also automatically, like, unzips things for you, although I think that feature might be partially broken.
[00:44:05] I’ve gotta figure out what’s going on with that one. So I’ll get to that, but that’s less important than the hardware. I really wanna get the hardware so I can get a, a school going for Octavian.
[00:44:12] Yes.
[00:44:13] And for you, our fans.
[00:44:16] Yes.
[00:44:16] And super cheap, too. Because I’m gonna get this so you can, you know, flash it yourself.
[00:44:20] But the point here being is this is a new culture. The way RFAB is structured is culturally totally unique compared to the way a normal website would be structured. You know, offer one product, lean on your core competency, not build additional features whenever you have an idea, right? But that’s, I think, where we’re going.
[00:44:40] And it’s the same with, with, with generation. Somebody gets an idea to do something, like, you know, Leaf, “Oh, I’m gonna make a video. I wanna be...” Like with Leaflet it’s, “I always wanted to be a an idol girl,” right? Like, “Wouldn’t that be fun?” And it’s like, now I can just be an idol, right? And us- People who are in leadership within the c- community diving in so aggressively to this technology, I think makes the community feel empowered, and thus dive in themselves, which allows for this shared culture of content creation to be born and normalized, which I’m really excited about.
[00:45:17] Agreed.
[00:45:18] Simone Collins: Yeah. Well, and to me it’s, it’s just a way to really easily visualize techno-feudalism as it starts to roll out, that there are these trust networks that are very distinct and interesting, that I think I wouldn’t have expected to be able to see earlier, but now you can literally see them through the cameos of the Skybrow cinematic universe videos.
[00:45:43] And you can see the overlapping of different communities, how they relate to each other, just by seeing who makes cameos, who makes guest appearances. And this is the most artistic and interesting and fun, succinct way to see it. It’s just super cool.
[00:45:56] Malcolm Collins: Well, I mean, we are defining likely what’s going to be the future of AI culture.
[00:46:01] Yeah. The way AI
[00:46:02] Simone Collins: art is shared. Yeah, because it’s not just, “Oh, these are fan communities.” What most of these creators do is serve as the filter through which their audiences come to understand reality. Like, Malcolm and I were just talking earlier about a crime or, like, court case that’s taking place involving a woman and murder, and both of us understand it through the lens of an Asmongold video.
[00:46:27] Like, we haven’t read original coverage of it. So this is important because these are people that are influencing pretty significantly the way that people consume, understand, and contextualize world events.
[00:46:37] Malcolm Collins: Yeah. And I think that’s, that’s what I wanna talk about. Yeah, I mean, I, I just I don’t, I, I cannot, like, say, and I, I, I hope our fans, our audience truly gets how astonishingly blessed our movement is to have no competent opposition.
[00:47:00] Simone Collins: Hmm.
[00:47:00] Malcolm Collins: I mean, other than the elites that control every institution in our society. Yeah. But they’re not competent. And that is why we will be able to steamroll the next generation of culture. We’ve just got to keep at it. And for all of you, what I’d encourage is if you haven’t gotten to explore how y- you can use AI to fix some problem you have in your daily life, dive into that.
[00:47:30] Simone Collins: Absolutely.
[00:47:32] Malcolm Collins: Because-
[00:47:32] Simone Collins: It’s intimidating, but I think it’s worth it to do
[00:47:34] Malcolm Collins: This is so good. I just want to get one.
[00:47:37] Simone Collins: You
[00:47:37] Malcolm Collins: answer- If I do it hard.
[00:47:39] Simone Collins: All right. Okay. Oh. I’ll accept that. I, oh, yep, th- I’ll accept that. Okay. Text. Text, text wants really to start school. You did good. You did good. I think Alia’s outside if you wanna go check.
[00:47:50] Malcolm Collins: Oh, okay. Thanks.
[00:47:51] Simone Collins: Yeah. I love you, buddy.
[00:47:53] Malcolm Collins: Can I stop doing lessons? Yes,
[00:47:53] Simone Collins: you can stop.
[00:47:55] Malcolm Collins: Thanks.
[00:47:55] Simone Collins: You kept your promise, and that is... You can leave it right there.
[00:47:58] Malcolm Collins: Oh, right on top of
[00:47:59] Simone Collins: this? I [00:48:00] believe so, yes.
[00:48:01] Malcolm Collins: Okay, thanks. All
[00:48:02] Simone Collins: right. Love you, buddy. Love you too. Promise keeper. Oh, wait, that has a political charge, doesn’t it?
[00:48:09] No, that’s the Oath Keepers, right? What am I thinking here?
[00:48:14] Malcolm Collins: Ugh. Whatever. Th- this, this is low effort parenting right here. Terrify your kid with monsters into finishing lessons while you’re off doing
[00:48:21] Simone Collins: other things. This is how bad it is, though. I won’t name names, but a, a friend’s kid stopped by our house this morning, and I was just like, “Oh, hey,” like- Ooh
[00:48:29] “you want anything to drink?” Like, “Okay, well, I’m gonna go in and work,” and then I, I get this call, and no, it turns out, like, there’s a panicked search for this child. I should’ve, like, stopped and detained the child, and I guess called the associated adults. But I just see a child on their own, like-
[00:48:46] Malcolm Collins: And you’re like-
[00:48:47] I’m overboard ... “Hey, you
[00:48:47] Simone Collins: want something to drink?
[00:48:48] Malcolm Collins: You wanna-”
[00:48:48] Simone Collins: And I’m
[00:48:49] like, “Hey, how’s it going? You wanna hang out for a while?” Like, I’m,
[00:48:53] we’re so now normalizing to our, like, free range parenting and just kids- ... coming and going, hanging out, that I’m just like, “Oh, hey, hi,” and I don’t realize that there’s probably a, a growing search party of panicked adults.
[00:49:07] Are we gonna be that
[00:49:08] Malcolm Collins: house to hang out at?
[00:49:10] Simone Collins: I could see that happening, yeah
[00:49:12] Malcolm Collins: I mean, we’re fortunate in that our oldest kid is an incredibly popular person. Octavian is very popular with, like, everyone he spends time with.
[00:49:20] Simone Collins: Yeah.
[00:49:20] Malcolm Collins: Just
[00:49:20] Simone Collins: loves them all.
[00:49:21] Malcolm Collins: He, he statted into 10s in charisma. Maybe not 10s in smarts, but definitely 10s in charisma.
[00:49:28] Simone Collins: I’m actually very impressed with him. And when you think, when, when... We, we, we joke with him about, like, his technical scores with some legacy schooling, but you and I had exactly the same delays.
[00:49:43] Malcolm Collins: Mm. Yeah, but I’m a genius.
[00:49:47] Simone Collins: Yeah. My- He might be a genius too. Look, I’m just saying, like, I had exactly... Like, my teachers were calling my parents and all that, and I don’t know, I turned out okay.
[00:49:59] Oh, no.
[00:50:04] Malcolm Collins: I love you
[00:50:06] Simone Collins: Okay, I love you too. Torsten, though he probably will have changed his mind by the time he comes in tonight, had requested grilled cheese sandwiches tonight. Would you like grilled cheese sandwiches? Sure. Like one grilled cheese sandwich and one hot dog? Like, I don’t know, what do you want?
[00:50:23] Malcolm Collins: Like a grilled cheese sandwich and a half?
[00:50:26] Simone Collins: Yeah, you always want one and a half grilled cheese sandwiches. And no hot dogs?
[00:50:31] Malcolm Collins: Do we have any tomato soup left?
[00:50:33] Simone Collins: No, no. That would’ve been like growing an entirely new species by now. It is... It, it was consumed. It was consumed by collectively the family when they were convalescing here.
[00:50:46] Malcolm Collins: W- do we have any like deli meat?
[00:50:50] Simone Collins: No, we don’t have deli meats, but we do have the caramelized pork. We have Burmese mint chicken. We have one more bowl if memory serves. We have that cashew cream curry. We have-
[00:51:04] Malcolm Collins: No, no. I’ll just have, I’ll just have the I’ll just have
[00:51:07] Simone Collins: the, the- One and a half grilled cheese sandwiches?
[00:51:09] Malcolm Collins: One and a half grilled cheese
[00:51:10] Simone Collins: sandwiches. All these gourmet things I batch prepped-
[00:51:12] Malcolm Collins: Okay, okay, okay ... and you want- One and a half with a, a small amount of
[00:51:16] Simone Collins: cashew curry can go on it. They, they come in allotments once I freeze them.
[00:51:21] Malcolm Collins: Then one allotment of cashew curry.
[00:51:23] Simone Collins: With a, a grilled cheese sandwich?
[00:51:25] And
[00:51:27] Malcolm Collins: just one grilled cheese sandwich then.
[00:51:28] Simone Collins: Okay. Sorry about my allotments. I’m so sorry. I know I drive you nuts, but I love you.
[00:51:39] Malcolm Collins: I’m gonna murder you one day. That’s, that’s-
[00:51:42] Simone Collins: Yeah, well, you know, you’re gonna need someone to take care of these noodles, and someone woke me up by kicking me at 4:00 in the morning repeatedly.
[00:51:51] Malcolm Collins: I literally just woke you up by- Face ... kicking you in the face.
[00:51:54] Simone Collins: Yeah, so you know, welcome to my world.
[00:51:58] Malcolm Collins: All right, love you to death, Simone. Love you too. Have [00:52:00] a wonderful day, and let’s try to get to bed early.
[00:52:03] Simone Collins: Yes, I would like that. Would you like that? Would you like that?
[00:52:09] Malcolm Collins: Although I’m not going to bed until I figure out these cucking systems.
[00:52:14] Come on.
[00:52:14] Simone Collins: You’ll get it. You’ll get it. I’ll, I’ll give you some, some time with the dinner prep ‘cause I have to somehow grab and hose off all the kids and check them for ticks. Right. Bye.
[00:52:24] Malcolm Collins: Bye.
[00:52:25] Simone Collins: Tex the hunk biscuit
[00:52:27] Malcolm Collins: The hunk biscuit is what you’re calling him now?
[00:52:29] We got building- Ooh ... RFAB devices that you’ll be able to just... With this one you can just, with magnets, just like stick it on your fridge, and it can watch what you’re doing and talk to you and, and go through it all with you.
[00:52:39] And then this one’s just audio to audio. And I’m building an auto flasher on the system, so you won’t even need to buy these through us. I can just give you the name of the product, and you can buy this for, like, 40 bucks if you want it with video and video. And then this one is, like, 19 bucks, and it’s just, like, audio to audio, and you could have these all over your house or whatever.
[00:53:01] Give them to your kids. I mean, that’s what we’re using this for is I’m gonna turn it into an educator. Because I got tired of, of having to parent. You know, I don’t wanna do that anymore. We, we had the kid, you know, and every day. So let’s see.
[00:53:12] Simone Collins: The kid, they don’t go away. Mm-hmm. They aren’t going home.
[00:53:16] Why are they not leaving? They’re like the guest that never departs. It’s gonna take a while, Malcolm. Especially since you and I are kind of bullish on having them here as newlyweds. Like, it’s, it’s actually... If they’re like... If they’re newlyweds going through- Mm ... college or university or some kind of professional training program or getting their business off the ground As long as they’re contributing- Yeah
[00:53:39] All right, what’s going on up here?
[00:53:48] What have you done? What is this? Oh,
[00:53:56] Andy, why aren’t you in the chair? How have you jerry-rigged it?
[00:54:04] You’re so silly. Look
[00:54:20] Thank you for eating toast, Eve. I’ll get some shorts on you
