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An Elon Lead Efficiency Department of the US Government Might Become Real

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Dive into the controversial proposal of a Government Efficiency Commission led by Elon Musk, as announced by Donald Trump for his potential 2024 presidency. This video explores the implications of this audacious plan, discussing its potential impact on American bureaucracy, education reform, and the future of U.S. politics.

[00:00:00] Hello, Simone. I am excited to be here with you today because I told you something recently and you were like, that cannot be true. Yeah, just randomly going off about something. Both parties can't be involved. This can't really be happening. And I was like, no, I from what I've heard, it is happening and I have gotten more information, so we are going to talk about this.

Let's do it. During a speech at the Economic Club of New York, September 5th, 2024, Trump announced his plans to establish a government efficiency commission tasked with conducting a complete financial performance audit of the entire federal government, making recommendations for drastic reforms to improve efficiency, eliminating fraud and improper payments within six months, which Trump claims would save .

Trillions of dollars, and he's probably right. , oh, and all of this would be run by Elon Musk. And he was like, this must [00:01:00] be like a meme, this can't be. Yeah. So we're going to get more into this.

Would you like to know more?

Trump has said this on multiple occasions at this point, Elon Musk has confirmed this.

Speaker: At the suggestion of Elon Musk, I will create a government efficiency commission tasked with conducting a complete financial and performance audit of the entire federal government and making recommendations for drastic reforms.

We need to do it. Can't go on the way we are now.

And Elon, has agreed to head that task force.

Not only has he confirmed this, but he told Trump to set this up with him running it. That is, I want this to happen. That sounds awesome. A hundred thousand percent. A thousand percent. Like. This could genuinely save our country or at least save our collapse for 10 to 20 years and in the same way that Margaret Thatcher did for the [00:02:00] UK, like the UK is only now collapsing because Margaret Thatcher reset the clock about 20 years on the collapse of the United Kingdom.

Genuinely one of the most important political figures in history, people who don't know how much she did for the United Kingdom. And of course she's hated by the left for it, because she, she shut down all of these, like, coal mines and stuff like that, that were just running on subsidies. And everyone was like, oh, but people lost their jobs, and it's like, yeah, but then the unemployment rate stabilized and people had real jobs that weren't reliant on a Fake state infrastructure going into dirty power source, like coal, right?

I love it that lefties will complain about coal mines shutting down in the UK. I'm like, you guys are nutter butters, nutter butters. But anyway, but. If Elon and Trump can delay this for just 20 years in the U. S., given that only conservatives are having kids anymore, okay, things are shifting. We just need to outlast these crazy [00:03:00] commies until they all die old age.

Then we can set a new social system in place, okay? But! If we can just keep America functioning because really it may not function for much longer there was a great video on this, called the two million dollar toilet is what the title card was I forgot the name of the video. I was like was economic inefficiency destroy america.

It's from visual politic They did a great job explaining like just how bad things are in the u. s. The thing that we always note is the golden great bridge it cost about a third what it cost to originally build it just to put the suicide netting on it You It took like six times as long or something in cash adjusted dollars.

You know, so, inefficiencies and government waste is at a level now in the U. S. which is higher than the E. U., and that is wild. Now, the E. U. still gives money to more stupid government programs, like Dustborn, that game we talked about that was just like, racist D. E. I. nonsense, was funded by E. U. taxpayers.

Oh [00:04:00] no, really? Oh, ouch. Anyway, so I'm going to keep going here. Alice, do you have any thoughts before I go further? No, keep going. The Government Efficiency Commission would conduct a financial and performance audit of the federal government and would track down fraud and improper payments made from government programs.

By the way, if you're wondering, like, oh, come on, this doesn't happen all the time. A place where this happened a ton was under Tim Walz's district. Kamala Harris's district.

No! Really? What, what, so what kind of fraudulent? Oh, I don't remember off the top of my head. I just remember with millions and millions of millions of dollars that were very easy to catch, but he may have been using it to pay off for political purposes, individuals

For example, the nonprofit feeding our future. I diverted $250 million at federal funds meant to feed low income children during the COVID-19 pandemic. And basically just stole the money.

Apparently with almost no oversight.

As judged by the Minnesota office of legislative auditors.

it would then provide recommendations for [00:05:00] quote unquote drastic reforms aimed at promoting efficiency explained was the goal of eliminating fraud and improper payments within six months of the commission being formed, quote, I will create a government efficiency commission test Conducting a complete financial and performance audit of the entire federal government in quote Must know of Tesla and SpaceX and owner of social media platform X Acknowledged his agreement to serve as the government efficiency commission and wrote on X quote I look forward to serving America If the opportunity arises, no pay, no title, no recognition is needed.

End quote, politicians have pushed for government efficiency commissions in the past. A president, Republican president, Ronald Reagan, established a similar body while he was in office from 1981 to 1989 called the grace commission. Trump's proposal sparked criticism for Everett Kelly, president of the American Federation of Government Employees, a union that represents 750, [00:06:00] 000 federal workers.

Oh, I bet it did. I bet they don't want people going through those books and finding where people aren't needed anymore. So for more context here, the idea for this commission originated in a conversation between Trump and Elon Musk in August, 2024.

Musk endorsed Trump for president in July, 2024. The proposal is part of Trump's broader economic plan for a potential second term, which includes tax cuts and deregulation. See you. This is huge. And it's been very interesting for me to watch. I watched an MSNBC coverage of this and they were just freaking out.

They were like, Twitter, this has gotten so bad since mush took it over. It's become a disinformation platform.

Speaker 3: Foreign interference in American elections, something we've all been on the lookout for since 2016. But there's also, like, a really disturbing information environment in America right now. Domestically, in this campaign year, there's nothing to do with illegal foreign interference. Elon Musk runs one of the most influential internet platforms, or at least it used to be, [00:07:00] formerly known as Twitter, and he has essentially turned that platform into a pro Trump, pro authoritarian disinformation machine, where he just posts vile bigotry and disinformation that millions of people see and share.

It also seems like in two ways, the entire platform seems more and more engineered towards that kind of Sort of like trollish right wing politics,

some things that lefties say they've gotten called by their fact checkers, which by the way, their fact checkers have been actually pretty fantastic. The fast checking system that Elon put in place and people are like, why do you say it's fantastic and fairly unbiased?

People will say this and then regularly gloat that it fact checks Elon Musk. And it's like, that's my f ing proof, bro. The very fact that you will f ing bemoan how biased the system is when it catches lefties and then gloat that it's constantly catching Elon Musk in misrepresentations. That, to me, is what a, when a system, when a [00:08:00] government department is regularly arresting the emperor, it is NOT under the emperor's dictatorial control.

Okay, buddy? In addition to that, just anyone who's used X recently knows it's a much more fun platform to use since Elon took over than before. And I remember MSNBC was like, they've become so troll y, they like, keep making these jokes, and like, Elon posted a picture of Kamala Harris in like a communist uniform, said that she was gonna make America communist in her first 30 days, and she didn't say that, and she never wore that uniform, and he is a liar!

It's like, it's obviously like an AI generated image, like, oh my god.

Speaker 3: Despite his site's own policy that you may not share synthetic, manipulated, or out of context media that may deceive or confuse people, Musk does that basically all day long. On Monday, he posted this, like, weird and pretty schlocky AI generated image of what is supposed to be Vice President Kamala Harris, but doesn't really look like her, in a Soviet looking uniform, commenting, [00:09:00] Kamala vows to be a communist dictator on day one.

Can you believe she wears that outfit? In point of fact, I can't, because she doesn't, and it's AI. That post alone was viewed more than 81 million times, at least according to Twitter's metrics, which, you know, who knows if you can trust them

They're like, it wasn't even fact checked. It's like, yeah, because people who aren't retarded are retarded. Would see that it's a joke. Okay. I don't know if I'm allowed to say retarded, but that's a retarded thing to say. But anyway, going further with this they were complaining about, and people who know how bad this has gotten.

We did this video on Elon Musk. You know, getting Twitter banned in Brazil because he wouldn't ban a bunch of people that they told him to write another large democracy and then Campbell Harris saying, like, I like that. They banned him. That's a good thing because we have to treat all social media platforms the same the way we treat Facebook.

They're like, if you have one set of rules for Facebook and one separate X. And now we know that the government forced Facebook. To ban posts that were true because they [00:10:00] hurt Democratic campaign officers, specifically the FBI made them take down the Hunter Biden laptop story and parts of the COVID misresponse stuff.

But then in addition to that I have learned since I made that post that some of the people who they wanted Hex to remove in Brazil were sitting legislative officials who were concerned. Oh, no. Really? It wasn't just mainstream, like, you know, their version of, like, Tucker Carlson. It was other party members who weren't on their party's side.

This was a dictatorial coup attempt. Wow. And of course the left can't handle that Elon is allowing for free speech. But what is and something I mentioned in another podcast, for people who have like these weird interpretations of Elon Musk because they believe, like, do you understand? Elon Musk is the wealthiest person in the world, okay?

And if you're like, and being liked as the wealthiest person in the world is, [00:11:00] Okay, if you're like, he could just give his money to poor people, it's like, well, Mark Zuckerberg tried that Bill Gates tried that. Did they get any love for? They are much more hated than Elon, right? Elon is just an autistic dad.

Okay. He's an autistic dad who is in a fight with some of his ex wives. That is who Elon really is. Okay. He is not like, and he's smart. He's smart as hell. Okay. He has achieved a great deal in his life. And when you who has achieved astronomically less than him degrade him, believing these fake stories you're hearing about him and these fake interpretations of him, you look like a buffoon to other competent people who have actually achieved things in their lives.

You look like a buffoon. . But anyway, Simone, thoughts? I've been on a rant this time. It, it's an exciting idea. I, I'm [00:12:00] confused as to why this same interest in greater efficiency cleaning up legislation and cleaning up fraud is not also demonstrated in the Democratic Party.

You would think that it's universal beneficiaries of all that, right? But it should be a truth universally acknowledged that everyone would want things to run more efficiently and costs to be lower Democratic Party. And I think people misunderstand how critical a voting bloc this is to the Democratic Party.

The public sector unions are a massive. An important voting block to the Democratic Party, even though only 4 percent of Americans are apparently in unions, which is. Right, but they can decide elections. Okay, specifically the public sector unions because they're very good at whipping out their people to vote as blocks.

All right, and they are needed for democratic primaries. If you go against the teachers union or something like that, you're not going to win the election. [00:13:00] This is why we can't have education reform in the U. S. Because the teachers union has a democratic party completely in their pocket. This is why Democrats will never do any real education reform.

And this is why anything that looks at government corruption and inefficiency is going to be seen as an existential threat to public sector unions because they. They know what's up. They know about, in New York, that there's teachers who have gotten over two million dollars while not teaching classes, just because it's so hard to fire a teacher in New York.

By the way, the teacher who this happened to I think they molested multiple young girls. And they just weren't fired because it was easier. And the teacher's union is protecting them, still preventing them. That is what teacher's union stands for, is the molestation of children. That is what they defend, and that is what, and there was a famous quote from the head of the New York I think it was the Manhattan Teacher's Union, that we will start advocating for the best interests of students the moment students start paying teacher union dues.

They do not care about students [00:14:00] when Mark Zuckerberg tried to, you know, trying to do the generic thing to help people. He went out there and he gave I think it was a 10 million, no, a hundred million dollars to the new with some stupid, stupid in terms of its generosity, like just insanely high, 46 million of it.

Went to a bribe to the teacher's union so that the rest of it could be used to pay Teachers who worked more more money i. e. Yeah, the premise of his general philanthropic effort was Well, what if teachers who had better student outcomes received basically incentive pay and reward? For producing better student outcomes.

And that was such an offensive concept to the teachers unions that he basically had to pay bribes. Because God has a bribe and people will be like, well, it wasn't technically a bribe. It went to their, whatever back fund when you're the birder birder fund and the herd of birder fund, it went [00:15:00] to the unions.

Okay. It's a bribe, call it whatever you want. It was money that wasn't paid in the way that was meant to improve student outcomes. It had to be paid this way so that they could even attempt improve student outcomes. That is how little teachers unions care. About student outcomes. They do. Actually, there was a great study done on this that Simone likes to share during covid that was looking at how strict covid restriction policies were in school.

It looked no, basically, it looked at where they were the longest school shutdowns during the pandemic in the United States, and then it looks to see what it correlated with more. Did it correlate with the severity of the disease burden in an area, or did it correlate more with the strength of a teacher's union?

And lo and behold, the correlation was with the strength of teachers unions. That was quite a high correlation. And there was basically zero correlation with the actual threat. Of COVID 19 in [00:16:00] that area at that time, but I want to elevate what this means for everyone remember how like they fired that woman who is going to be the next head of Levi's because She said I think she was actually already the ceo of Levi Strauss company a very famous jeans company in the united states And she became very vociferous about school closure policies as a mother of black children.

Hold on, hold on, hold on, Simone. You're forgetting part of the story. Specifically, she was concerned about the closure of minority dominated schools. Her point was that basically privileged and wealthy parents Are not in a position to stop people from complaining about school closures because they are quietly proceeding to get private tutors for their students and getting their kids into private schools that are still open.

Whereas those who have no money for alternatives are losing their kid's education. And, and, and what's important here, she's removed from her position. Never [00:17:00] reinstated after Covid when it turned out she was right about this. But what's important to note is we now know these school closures did nothing.

These school closures were motivated by the teachers unions. Teachers who had these strong unions and saw Covid as an opportunity to basically just stay. Stop working for a couple of years at the expense of an entire generation of American students, because now we know these weren't backed by the science.

Now we know these didn't work. We can look at the data. Now we know that these were predominantly done by the teachers unions because we can look the length of them was determined by the strength of the teachers union. And that was by far the highest correlator to how long these lasted. These were just an opportunity for power hungry teachers unions to have teachers stop working when they felt like it.

It is horrifying, horrifying what's being done to the students. And I should note, many of the teachers didn't want to stop. They were like, what are you doing? Right? Like, the unions are not run by the teachers who care about the students. They are run by [00:18:00] the teachers who wanted to play the power politics of teacher union stuff.

Let me word this a different way, okay? Teachers unions are like if your profession wasn't run by the people who are good at your profession, but was run by the type of people who run abusive HOAs. Okay, those are homeowner associations for people outside the U. S. which are famous for just being really annoying and bureaucratic and woke and terrible.

Yeah, well, and basically obligating you to spend huge amounts of money every month on things you don't want to spend money on, but you have no choice because you owe Mahone in this community. So that's a scary prospect for people. Well, and our teacher union is not doing the same thing. You know, they force teachers to give them a part of their pay.

Yeah, yeah. They, they, they can spend it on these. Terrible for students stuff that these bureaucrats who don't care about students and the bureaucrats who don't care about students. They love that free time at home. In fact we saw this was an issue because we know people who are high up in like administration of education departments where when teachers started going back to [00:19:00] school, many of them were like, well, okay, here's my ultimatum either.

I quit or I stay working from home because what they had done was taken other jobs. And they realized that their other jobs were just better than going back to school. So it was easy for them to make that ultimatum. They, they use this to take on multiple jobs. We should also do a episode on the myth of low teacher pay. There's a great article on this, but like, when you actually account for things, and you account for, uh, time off, and you account for the amount that they get in terms of what is it? Summer vacation? No, no, no. The amount they get in like pension benefits and pensions.

Oh, like health, health insurance. Yes. You can troll for qualification and education level. Teachers earn something like 30 percent more than people in the private sector. Like they, it's actually a fantastically paid position. It's just that people overestimate how much people are earning in the private sector.

But you know, we've talked about this in other projects, people broadly just overestimate how much most Americans make. But Simone, [00:20:00] your thoughts on this. Do you think this can save America? A government efficiency department run by Elon. And are we going to be applying to that? I would apply to that in a hot second.

And. I don't think it could save America because I think that the deep state or whatever you want to talk, like call it the, the bureaucratic machine is a lot harder to dismantle and would take much more than four years, but I think that it could do a lot of good. And create a precedent where if it does a lot of good people recognize that it does good, that could create momentum that builds over time, which would be absolutely dreamy.

I mean, just imagine, I think the other big problem, and it's not even, you don't have to hate government to recognize the fact that many of the departments that we have in government in the United States and elsewhere. In the world as well, they were created before the Internet. They were created during very different times with very different [00:21:00] technology and very different resources.

So their staffing composition, the way that things are structured doesn't necessarily correlate with modern technology, management methods, all sorts of things like that. And they could almost certainly be run far more efficiently. So I think, you know, you don't have to hate government to recognize that talent is being misallocated now and resources are being misallocated.

I sometimes feel like when I hear you talking, I'm like, wow, she's so like cold and rational and, and, and pragmatic. And, and, Am I being Pollyanna ish here or what? No, you're not being Pollyanna ish. I think you're, you, you represent I guess I'm like the emotional side of the voice. I can't believe they're doing.

We have to wait. Your sense and I'm sensibility. Oh no, your sensibility and I'm Sense . And you're coming in and you're like, well, you know, a lot of these departments were created during a different era and it is very important that we go through and we update them for a modern context using, well, that's our autistic schizoid [00:22:00] dynamic here.

Right? We you know, we do, we do very well together. I'm quite happy to be married to you. For people who are wondering what she's talking about there, look up the video the Schizoid to Autist Spectrum. It actually did pretty well, the video, and one person on it was like, in the comments, they were like, This must be taken down immediately!

This could cause harm to these communities! Are we both an insult too? No, no, no. Because we're presenting novel theories around the way these things work. And somebody who is of this mindset of the urban monoculture's explanation for everything is sacrosanct. And any alternate explanation, even if it's scientifically backed, is incredibly dangerous because, you know, we're, we're challenging dogma from, from their perspective.

He's basically yelling heretic, burn him! Heretic! You know, we weren't talking. I mean, like, I feel like. Schizophrenia and autism aren't necessarily. Hot button issues in the modern progressive movement here. Sorry.. Do you, do you remember where we were in the [00:23:00] conversation? We were talking schizoid. Oh yeah. I wanted to mention, this is a little unrelated, but if we're talking about people with brain wiggles and you and I have brains full of wiggles the term neurodivergent.

was not meant for everyone who had brain wiggles. It was meant for people with Asperger's specifically. The woman who, who termed the phrase. Yes. Then she's like later been a little miffed that people just decided to use this word and apply it to like everything. You know, I think it's, it was sort of OCD if I do how a lot of people are like, Oh, I'm so OCD and they're not, you know, they're just like, They're just basic bitches and they're just like, oh, so OCD.

And they're not, they're not and I think that that has happened as well with neurodivergent. I, I had no idea. I thought that neurodivergent just meant like, I just, I see myself as. I, I never really fit in with one group. I just floated from group to group, you know. All right, but Simone, [00:24:00] we need to talk about the existential threat to our democracy.

Yeah. Anyway, yeah. Side, side note. I was just talking with the person who's helping us with all these mailer ballots and they were like yeah, we, they're like, you guys are young, but like we had freedom our entire lives. And like, this does not feel like the United States used to feel. And I felt that way when I was watching this recent MSNBC bit and recent news bits where I'm just like, They're just like lying to us now and lately, I love like, and it's been amazing working with our campaign volunteers because they're incredibly helpful and they're so you're not going to volunteer for a campaign or for the conservative cause in America if you don't have hope, because otherwise, why would you bother?

Right? They do have some hope. And yet. Call it election pod. Say they talk about election pod. They talk about election wiggles. And they talk about the underpinnings of our democratic institutions not working anymore.

And yet, they're still [00:25:00] trying. But it's scary to hear that. Because We, I want to do a separate episode on this. But I'm going through this show called The Good Fight that first started running right around when Trump was elected. And it was sort of a follow up of this other U. S. based TV show series, like a law procedural called The Good Wife.

But it's basically a show about Trump derangement syndrome. And what's crazy is that, and I want to do a podcast about the, this show shows. The perspective of someone with Trump derangement syndrome. And it's a show that devolves to the point where the characters literally justify and the show seems to literally justify committing.

Well, there's an episode. I could not find clips from it. I was so mad. I tried to find it uploaded anywhere, daily motion, YouTube, anywhere. Cause I wanted to drag these clips from it, but There's this great clip that you were talking about where they're like, yeah, we need to start lying and cheating and

sorry, using election pods. Using, wiggling votes, wiggling, making the votes, [00:26:00] wave in the wind, do a little, little, you know. Whatever. Yeah, I guess. Yeah. We'll, we'll say, yeah, get on a post hoc basis changing voters minds. Very convincingly. But yeah, like that, that there's a show that's basically like, well, here's the logical argument.

For why we're totally justified in doing this and we should be doing this. And it's, it's insane that these ideas are apparently mainstream. So yeah, it, it, it saddens me that we can hear such hopeful stories of let's, let's make it an initiative of the government to clean things up. Let's. Let's make things better.

And that that's actually even seen as an attack point in political ads. I was speaking with a lobbyist this afternoon. To get his insights on what's going on with the election in the state of Pennsylvania, a key swing state in the United States. And he was [00:27:00] talking about an election ad. He heard while driving cross country for Kamala Harris in favor of her, that talked about how one of Trump's desired actions is to completely evaporate the department of education.

And that, that alone for him was a selling point. He's like, sign me up. Like, this is an attack ad. So yeah, I'm, I'm, well, and that's where you get people when, when the, when the, I'm not going to be like, Oh, I'm pro Trump because I saw that ad. I'm like, Oh, he could lie about that. Right. Whatever. But with Kamala doesn't add this, like, let's get, Trump says he wants to get rid of the federal education department.

And people are listening to that and they're like, Hmm. Yeah, you know, I mean, yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. That was actually something when Trump announced the government efficiency campaign, he specifically does a long speech afterwards about the core focus of it is to focus on education, both the education department and [00:28:00] the government funded university system. Hmm. Wow. Yeah. Yeah, although I just, I have my doubts of Jordan Peterson, for example, recently. Released some online university that's not accredited. But he's trying to provide the equivalent of, of an affordable college education to people.

There are all, all sorts of online certification programs. There's course careers. I just don't see any of it at present being picked up. I hear people like the investors and employers of the all in podcast. You know, these are very influential people. With a very influential podcast saying, yeah, you know, we, we should start, you know, we, we need to ignore prestigious universities and, and, and hire people just based on merit.

And many of them actually do and have done for many years. You know, they just don't hire people from prestigious universities because they found that they're too entitled. They don't actually do any work, but. You know, just the fact that they're saying that we [00:29:00] need to do that really shows that people are still leaning on these institutions for the vetting they do, if nothing else.

I feel like maybe one of the most efficient things you could ever do is get rid of everything but universities admissions boards. And so you get no, but the admissions boards are the heart of the evil, but if you get into Harvard, then it means that we just need an alternate system that because the admissions boards are the root of the evil or the DEI is to be, but employers want, they want someone else to do their work for them.

Employers want somebody else to do the vetting for them. So how else can you, can you do someone's vetting for them? Well, there's actually been a great number of leaps in that area among elite circles that we hang out in. The core thing that people look for is did other people give this person money now?

Yeah, but That's what they look for. So you well, she hasn't pooped in days. I need So, so an example here is typically like way more prestigious than a Harvard degree. These days are the Teal [00:30:00] fellowship, Teal fellowships are where they pay you to not go to college to work on whatever you want to work on because that's true.

Yeah. If a kid has a Teal fellowship or a you know, an emergent ventures grant. For example, grants are considered really prestigious that might've dried up. Yeah. The Atlas fellowship. So we're already moving to this system where the people who are so talented that people just give them money, a Y Combinator investment.

Yeah, much bigger deals in Harvard these days by those who know, But I guess that's who matters. Yeah. That's who knows people with money, people with access to opportunities. Yeah. We've already moved to this system. Oh, she looks so sleepy. She's in a state. She's just like, I don't know. I kind of want to engage.

I don't even know what she's doing. I, I, she looks like I feel our children just act always like I feel, you [00:31:00] know, like when they're just screaming and shitting on the floor. I'm like, yeah, man, why can't I be screaming and shitting on the floor?

Speaker 6: Take off your pants and your panties, shit on the floor. Time to get schwifty in here.

I'm doing it on the inside. You know, they just, I gotta, I gotta do the get shifty thing here.

Our children though. I think children really, a person's children. Is them drunk on steroids? You're seeing the real version of them plus their partner. You know, it's, yeah, there's no hiding it at that point. Even when you're drunk, you can still kind of people who hate their children, hate themselves. You know, you see all these things like I don't know where their spouses.

Or, or they, yeah. Or they don't like their spouses. Yeah, because I love myself and you love Yeah. I, I like you love, love our kids. I like you, Simone. I love myself, , and I love our kids. They are fantastic. You, you, I have love for you, but you know. You're no Malcolm. I'm no Malcolm. It's true. I love you [00:32:00] more than I love me.

You are amazing though. You can't look at a mirror without seducing yourself and I can't look at a mirror without cringing and thinking, Oh God. So explain what you mean by that because this is actually a fault of mine. Yeah. You will, Malcolm will walk by reflective surfaces, mirrors, windows, and sort of stop and kind of admire himself.

And our kids do exactly the same thing. In fact, in these. Favorite toy. This baby here is literally the mirror that you bought for Octavian four years ago, our oldest son. Yeah. And she just, she'll sit in the mirror and she'll just be like, and she'll like laugh. And I'll give you a clip. I have proof.

I have video proof of a video. I actually just took this one yesterday. She's in the same outfit, just going. She freaking loves it. So this is a genetic trait. But yeah, you absolutely self love. You know what? Well, I think it's because you're all extraordinary people and you recognize that. Elon Musk is one of those people.

I think he also enjoys, [00:33:00] he enjoys being himself, though. He has more of a tortured soul. And then you are for sure. Like he, he does not necessarily like being him, but I think he knows that he's a big deal. I would rather be me than Elon Musk. Oh yeah. When he said that, like he said this in multiple interviews, like you do not want to be me.

I am not a happy person. I'm not a serene or calm person. And you actually know how to like, enjoy yourself, which is great. Oh, I love my life. This life is off. I genuinely, when people are like, we might be in a simulation. I genuinely, unlike for me, the big evidence for me that I'm in a simulation is I do not believe that life can be this good.

This is the before scene. Like my life these days is the before scene. I hate that so much. I have that feeling all the time. I'm like, Oh shit. When is it going to drop? When is, Oh no. Well, that's why I've recently made the rule. We can't all be in a plane at the same time. We can't all like, we gotta, we gotta come up with rules to protect this because this is getting in the before scene vibe is too strong.

Too strong. Yeah, I agree. But yeah, I mean, [00:34:00] so do you think that that Trump is more likely to win This, with Elon Musk potentially leading up this efficiency department or not, or is just preaching to the choir? Look, I think that there's a brainwashing. Well, it went over centrists. Well, it went over swing voters.

What? Well, it went over centrists and swing voters is the question. I know centrists and swing voters who between the last election cycle and this election cycle have moved from Democrat to Republican. I don't know a single one that has moved from Republican to Democrat. I feel that if we lose this election cycle, it is due to election wiggles.

Because I just, just, no, just practically, I was actually talking with someone about this, and we tried to find anyone, a single human being who had publicly moved from Republican to Democrat between these two election cycles. And they said it was one they could find with Dick Cheney. And that's because his daughter got screwed [00:35:00] over when she went all Judas.

well, so is also, I'm curious, do you think this is a similar sentiment in the EU? I feel like Europeans are a whole lot more pro democracy is, is, is. Efficiency and cutting fat a selling point only in the U S or would something like this also be popular in the EU and the UK? I haven't noticed it as much as a thing.

I mean, obviously Margaret Thatcher did win in the UK. She's one of my favorite politicians in history. Insanely unpopular as well for doing things like that. They kind of saw her as like, you know, mean mommy doing what needs to be done, but they didn't like what mommy was doing. You know what I mean? Well, I mean, Mean Mommy needed to do what Mean Mommy needed to do.

It's true. One of my favorite things, for people who don't know the history of Margaret Thatcher and stuff like that, just the best politician ever. She was known for being much better educated on any subject. than the people who she was you're back from [00:36:00] school. Okay. Come on. I'm competing against, I'm going to tell you a story about Margaret Thatcher.

They call her the iron lady. Can you believe that the iron lady anyway? So she would do this thing called a handbagging people which, which we would see as like a woman beating a person with her purse. And it was when like local politicians would like challenge her. And then she'd start like.

Asking them nitty questions about like their local economy. Like are you familiar with x from your local economy? Like have you done x about y? Like y about c? You know and just like a bunch of like popular local stuff that they should know about, but she knows about because she memorized it for every single district.

That's such a, that's such a Lisa Simpson, like, er, woman thing to do, to just be like, Wow. According to my research. Yeah. You're gonna one me? Come on, sit here. You gotta, you're gonna do what to me, Octavian? Are you, what is that? Is that a gun that goes from your eye? Yeah. Are, who are you, are you shooting our fans?

[00:37:00] Oh, no! Hey, Octavian, can you please tell our fans to like and subscribe? Like and subscribe! Wait, but Octavian, I have a question for you. Do you think the U. S. government is inefficient? Do you think the U. S. government is silly? Less? Are you going to shoot them with your eye laser? It's not an eye laser. Come on, Malcolm. It's a gun. What would they do to somebody if it hits them?

I built it at, no, I'm not talking about I built it at school. Where'd you build it? I made it. Out of Legos. Oh. Do you often make guns? So it won't take, so it won't kill. Oh, so it won't kill. Oh. Because what happens with real guns, are you allowed to touch real guns, Octavian? What happens if you accidentally touch a real gun?

Yeah, and that's [00:38:00] why bops are important. Right, Octavian? And, and, I have a question, I have a question. If somebody wastes money on silly things, what should happen to them, Octavian? I don't know. Well, suppose somebody took your money. Every year they took your money.

What would you do to them? I really don't know. Sorry, he's just into shooting people with his eye gun. Well, you know, that's the first thing they teach you at kindergarten is how to be a school shooter.

It's not why it's a school shooter. Well, I mean, he's a little white boy, right? They need more white boy school shooters for the narrative to work. Yeah. And less trans school shooters, because apparently they're all trans now. That's what I've seen. Not in the media. Well, not in the media, but by the actual statistics.

Malcolm Collins: In 2017, there was the Randy Stare mass shooting in Tanahawken, PA. Next you had a shooting at a Maryland distribution center in 2018 , then you had a school shooting in Denver in [00:39:00] 2019, so no, right now.

2017, 2018, 2019. Then the Colorado Springs LGBT nightclub shooter identified as non binary,

that was in 2022. Then in 2023 the Nashville school shooting was also transgender now people can be like, oh that's not that many.

That's only.

Five mass shooters.

, almost one a year. That's not that many mass shooters.

Malcolm Collins: And then I would point out that since 1982 in the United States, there have only been four female, cis female mass shootings. So just since 2017, there has been it

More trends, mass shootings than there have been female mass shootings since 1982. It's not anti-trans to point out that this is just a fact at this point. And we as a society should probably be doing something about the epidemic of trans mass shooters.

 what do you want to talk about? I don't know. I don't know. [00:40:00] Okay, I don't need you anymore. Get away from me, you gross and disgusting.

They say I don't love my kid and they're right about that. I

love you, Malcolm. Would you mind getting the kids what do you want for dinner? I have meat. I reheat the meat I have in the fridge from my Lunch yesterday. You don't like that I go out to lunch. Well, no, it's just that I got like two, two nights worth of meat thawed because you kept asking me to thaw it.

Yeah, and I'll eat it. It'll be fine. Well, we're gonna, we're gonna be hosting dinners in DC soon. Oh, I forgot about that. Ouch. It's okay. I'll figure something out. Maybe I can get the kids to eat something. Well, you can just refreeze it. No. But I'll see if I can get the kids to eat something. It'll be fine.

Just cook it through. Well, anyway, I'll reheat your stuff with rice. Do you want fried rice or plain rice? Fried rice if you can. I love it when you do that. Yeah. Only spring onions. No other vegetables. [00:41:00] If you have other vegetables, I'm happy to dig a vegetable heavy. Peas. Peas? Yeah. Oh no, then just the spring onions.

Do you want me to sauté onion? Like chopped up onion? Diced up onion? No, but next time we go to Trader Joe's, we should get more vegetables. Oh no, we have the frozen. No, we have frozen. You want me to do those? Yes. Like your, like, whatever sauté vegetables you got at Costco? Yeah. I'll work on that. Just get the kids.

Cause we gotta. All right. I love you. I'm sorry. I love you. Sorry. I was one who held us up. It was my fault. I love you. You're everything to me. Okay. Go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go. I love you. I love you. Bye. Chao, chao. Chao, chao, chao, chao, chao, chao, chao. Octavian. Buddy. Buddy.

Are you just going to do this for hours tonight? Okay. What do you want for dinner? Octavian? Dinner.

You always say that. [00:42:00] Okay. Will you actually eat the pizza? Yes. And some meatball. And some, you know, corn. Oh boy.

How about just some of those things? Yes. Okay. A lot of food. Okay. You brought your appetite. Alright, I'll see you downstairs, buddy.

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